an ally to the united states. i thought he would -- he was a south korean, and allied to the united states. i thought he would make changes. soon after he was put in place. they hung saddam hussein. he came out with a statement that i thought was going to change the united nations. that people were attacking the iraqis for a planned capital punishment. he made a statement, he said, maybe we should not focus on saddam's death, let's focus on how many people he killed. i said, discuss it gets it. the next day, but they got to him. he said, do not misunderstand what i am saying. the fact they killed him is terrible. he changed the way he was viewed. host: did you talk to him? guest: i did not. i came close. two body guards pushed me away. host: here is more. >> hell yeah they knew in rwanda. they said, this is what is going to happen. here is modest authority. operational authority. one of them was to protect and sees an arms cache. more than that, it would send a signal that we know. he was told no. he was told, it